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Post by hawkeye on Jan 8, 2006 1:42:46 GMT -5
With apologies for resurrecting. As a character, I actually prefer Tron to Roll (though I like both characters), but it is fairly obvious that (a) Capcom is gunning for a RockxRoll relationship and that (b) a RockxTron relationship was never in the cards, and wouldn't have worked out anyway. Rock and Roll's relationship is much more developed than Rock and Tron's. Pertinently, they are the most important people in one another's lives, and a good portion of MML2 is dedicated to demonstrating how reliant they are on one another. Despite 'hearing' Roll confess to a range of supposed crimes (when Tron jams her communications), Rock does not become suspicious of Roll for a second. Roll writes that she relies on him - Rock is just the same. Trapped at the end of the game, he remains completely at ease because he knows he can count on Roll. That is a powerful connection and a VERY strong relationship. And one which easily translates to romanticism. They do not act as much as brother and sister as newlyweds. People try and maintain that their relationship is that of siblings - that might have been true of MML1, but of 2? Siblings do not get excited and pump their fists upon walking into each other in the bath (and from Roll's diary, you know that it's happened before). Roll's secret diary entry is supposed to be ambiguous in its representation of her feelings for Megaman. If so, why label it a 'secret' entry? Why be secretive about having sisterly love for your brother? It's supposed to be a big revelation - if it were just a declaration of the feelings we assume are present during the entire story, there would be no need for it. It'd simply go without saying. The fact that Roll labels it a 'secret' indicates that it is something that she does not wish people to know. Yet, she's never shy about displaying 'sisterly' affection for Megaman, or of telling him how much he means to her. If she regards her love for him as a secret, and indeed, if she has 'only just realised it', it can only be because her love is of a different kind. As for Tron and Megaman - the most we see from them is a frustrated crush on Tron's part and some ambivalent semi-flirting from Megaman. His gladness to see her alive, often made so much of, might derive from attraction, but it could also derive from the simple fact that he's a nice, gentle person. Or that he simply doesn't want to have her death on his conscience. More importantly, a relationship between them at this point would cause a lot of problems for Megaman's relationship with Roll, which has been the most important and enduring of his life. To this point, Tron's infatuation with Megaman has been a source of comedy and nothing more. Capcom has never tried to make something of it, the way they have tried to make something of Rock and Roll. yea good start. but wtf guy i mean dang that is long!
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Post by Voulnutt on Jan 8, 2006 1:49:13 GMT -5
psh, hawkeye you could learn a thing or two from this. long, essay-like posts make for positive first impressions.
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Post by shadesofsolomon on Jan 8, 2006 5:42:13 GMT -5
Thanks for the compliments, and the welcomes. ^_^ Like I said, I actually like Tron, but I can't see a relationship between her and Megaman working out, either in terms of the plot or in what you might term 'reality.' Especially since Legends 2 concentrates so much on Rock and Roll.
And yes and no, in answer to your other question. ^_^ When I first started getting on the internet, I went by the name 'Solomon's Nightmare' - which was a reference to Gundam 0083 (the villain's nickname is the 'Nightmare of Solomon.') After a while, I decided I wanted a more original name, but so many of my friends were referring to me as 'Sol' that I decided to keep the 'Solomon' part. I liked the sound of 'ShadesOfSolomon', and thought it would emphasise the fact that I did a lot of debating (since the Biblical king was renowned for wisdom). But I'm blabbing. xP
By the way, did you make the image in your sig? ^_^
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Post by hawkeye on Jan 8, 2006 14:10:55 GMT -5
alright sol. drill time! 1. did you know that roll and megaman were in fact not adoptive siblings? 2.if megaman and roll got romantically involved what would happen? ( please specify) 3.who is hotter roll or tron? 4. if they were to make a new mmo what would it be based on? A.gta B.mercenary C. an real time strategy interfaced one 5. how old are you?
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Post by Voulnutt on Jan 8, 2006 14:22:44 GMT -5
his age is in his profile, same with everyone else.
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Post by SuperDanny on Jan 8, 2006 16:58:29 GMT -5
What the... why are you drilling him hawkeye? Anyways... WELCOME TO THE MESSAGE BOARD shadesofsolomon! Just like Voulnutt, I loved your first post, very well thought out and I agree it seemed to be the direction MML2 was taking.
My only problem with this direction is poor Tron. How can the story avoid her heartbreak if it kept this "RockxRoll" track of storyline? I doubt any future games will ever put closure to this by having Rock finally hitch with any character. The dense Rock being fought over by Tron and Roll is just too good a story element to actually end. And I just can't see it in Rock's character for him to hitch up with Roll OR Tron, or anyone really.
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Post by shadesofsolomon on Jan 8, 2006 19:21:52 GMT -5
Thanks again. ^_^ And I agree - I don't really think Megaman will definitively hook up with anyone. Legends isn't really a series defined by a source of conflict - there is no major villain who Megaman makes it his quest to defeat, or objective that Megaman wishes to accomplish. The love triangle is important, but since the game isn't about Megaman choosing a girl, it won't satisfactorily end just because he's done so. There isn't really any logical way for him to 'conclude' his adventures - he gets into them because of his work, and there's no indication that he'd ever want to stop it, or that he's looking nat going in a different direction with his life. Of course, they could always end it by saying 'Roll and Tron never managed to get the rocket working and Megaman was stuck for eternity. The end' but we'd kill them. =D
I don't quite follow your meaning. Do you mean that they are not brother and sister, period, or that they are biological brother and sister?
Nothing much, I suspect. One of the reasons I favour the coupling is that they are, to all intents and purposes, already 'together.' They are already a pair - all that has to change for them to become a 'couple' is for them to be more comfortable with the idea of it. As it stands, you'll find that their relationship is more typical of that experienced by newlyweds than that experienced by brothers and sisters. They are so eager to remind one another of their affection and regard - reminding one another that they believe in one another, buying presents, etc. The flirting, the constant reiteration of regard, the acts of consideration and the fact that these are never taken for granted - one would be hard pressed to find any brother and sister who behaved the same way.
Equally pertinent is the fact that not once in the course of the two games do either Megaman or Roll refer to one another as 'my brother' or 'my sister.' When they speak of each other to strangers, or to one another, it's always 'Megaman' or 'Roll' (or rather, 'Rocku' and 'Roll-chan') - this is extremely atypical of a Japanese brother-sister relationship.
But now I'm rambling. The point is, Rock and Roll don't consider one another brother and sister, and they don't behave as if they consider one another to be brother and sister. Their relationship already panders towards the 'wedded domestic bliss' ideal - I really don't think anything should, or would, change if Capcom hitched them together.
Both. =P Roll is sweet, Tron has attitude.
MMO?
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Post by hawkeye on Jan 8, 2006 21:49:40 GMT -5
what i meant in my first question was they were not siblings at all by birth or by adoption. so it is perfectly legal for them to do the sha-bang-bang ( if you know what i mean ). and an mmo is a massive multi-player game completely online incorperateing thousands of players.
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Post by Typhon Purifier 89 on Jan 8, 2006 22:01:47 GMT -5
what the heck, I already proved hands down that Roll is better, that's why the conversation died!! Because Roll is the woMAN hahahahahahaha
But seriously, I would not mind seeing Megaman and Roll actually showing the feelings that they have for each other... I mean, Roll SAID I love you in the journal, and Megaman SAID that he thinks that ROll is cute, and ALL guys know that that means he either wants to be in her pants, or he actually likes her hahahaha
Sorry, I'm in a dumb mood right now, cause I'm gonna try and revive these dead boards
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Post by Voulnutt on Jan 8, 2006 22:42:29 GMT -5
By the way, did you make the image in your sig? ^_^ No, i didn't i found it on the computer. I had the link but i lost it, i could find it though if you'd like. And i also didn't make the sig itself either. Amember here by the name Servbot4677 did, he has a thread in the fan media section.
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Post by shadesofsolomon on Jan 9, 2006 6:30:16 GMT -5
S'okay - but thanks. Just wondering if there was a story behind it, or something.
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Post by PKR on Jan 9, 2006 23:36:25 GMT -5
S'okay - but thanks. Just wondering if there was a story behind it, or something. OMFG! SHADESOGOSOLOMON made a short post! LoL.. I must say dude, your reasons and stuff are off the hook! And I mean that as a good thing Yet who knows what will happen to Mega's future.. Could be Roll could be Tron... Could be me.. I mean.. I uh.. Didn't say that.. hehe.. But I still think Tron would be better
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Post by warhawk on Jan 19, 2006 19:08:52 GMT -5
what the heck, I already proved hands down that Roll is better, that's why the conversation died!! Because Roll is the woMAN hahahahahahaha But seriously, I would not mind seeing Megaman and Roll actually showing the feelings that they have for each other... I mean, Roll SAID I love you in the journal, and Megaman SAID that he thinks that ROll is cute, and ALL guys know that that means he either wants to be in her pants, or he actually likes her hahahaha Sorry, I'm in a dumb mood right now, cause I'm gonna try and revive these dead boards i agree roll is the woman for megaman.
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Post by SIMSteven on Jan 21, 2006 1:22:37 GMT -5
Wow, inappropriate. *Deletes*
Anyways, THAT'S already happend, in things called lemons.
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Post by reaverbot on Jul 25, 2006 8:47:40 GMT -5
... I agree with Thunder Savior and Roll, Megaman and Roll belong together, not Tron and Mega
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