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Post by servbot4677 on Nov 11, 2010 23:14:03 GMT -5
BTW, I think the "Zetsabre" may be a mistranslation in both games. If you take the greek leter Zeta, that's the equivalent of Z in the alphabet. So the "Zetsabre" is really (dun, dun, dun) the Z-Sabre. Mind: officially blown.
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Post by Dark Kefka (AKA SS2 Gohan) on Nov 12, 2010 1:36:31 GMT -5
I finished Recording and editing MML1, I have 2 more parts to upload. I might start Tron's game right away.
Sim: Servitor Unit huh? Cool. Who where those units again?? And I seem to have avatar trouble. I want it back to the size it was..but I can't fix it.
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Post by SIMSteven on Nov 12, 2010 5:08:16 GMT -5
Those were Geetz and Gatz.
And Proboards resizes avatars to be 100 pixels wide/long unless they're uploaded to the public pool of avatars. Only SD can upload it and that means that everyone could use it....
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Post by MikΣy on Nov 12, 2010 9:25:34 GMT -5
I wanted to know more about Geetz and Gatz, but that's all we really know about them. Gatz is a servitor unit to Yuna, and Geetz is a servitor unit to Sera. It's truly a shame there isn't more about them, and it's my favorite cutscene out of the entire game.
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Post by SIMSteven on Nov 12, 2010 10:45:07 GMT -5
All we really know is that they're attendants to the Mother Units. They'll protect the Mother Units with their lives and they'll follow orders without hesitation.
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Post by Dark Kefka (AKA SS2 Gohan) on Nov 12, 2010 11:21:31 GMT -5
Kind of like peracons eh? Their sole mission is to serve their masters.
Speaking of Geetz..yeah...I agree with you Sim...that's hands down the greatest battle in MML. My favorite part is:
"Is that the best you can do Purifier?" He needs to return. But Gatz is gone isn't he??
I'm going to try to upload the final 2 episodes of Mega Man Legends 1 today in a few hours. Stay tuned guys.
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Post by MikΣy on Nov 12, 2010 11:27:58 GMT -5
My assumption is that Gatz was destroyed by some sort of firewall when he tried invading Sera's systems... it was probably the Mother Form that did it; Yuna said he was gone.
Geetz- yeah. He exploded. such an angry little Servitor unit.
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Post by Dark Kefka (AKA SS2 Gohan) on Nov 12, 2010 11:42:49 GMT -5
That's too bad. Maybe he has a backup program??
Actually..youtube is having some serious uploading problems....and until they fix it..I can't promise anything.
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Post by SIMSteven on Nov 12, 2010 12:27:56 GMT -5
Gatz died when he tried to assimilate his program into Sera's body to assist MM in his fight against Sera once she was weakened. But, she was still too strong for him so she probably destroyed him when she transformed into her final form. She may have switched from one body to another, also, but that's just speculation. So he was killed in the process of morphing, so it's like a parasite dying when the host body dies.
Geetz kamikazeed once you beat him as to buy Sera some time so that she could return to Elysium. It probably took a while for Data to repair MM and that's why we saw all the cutscenes where MM took The Master to Terra. MM was just watching memories of his past life before he fought Sera, stalemated, and Yuna intervened.
So she imprisioned Sera on the Forbidden Island and imprisoned MM on Nino Island. MM was too badly damaged so he reset his body so that he could heal, and that's why he created Data in his past life. MM was reborn as a baby with The Master's genetic code and that's probably why he had the upper hand against Sera and why Juno didn't recognize him right away. (They're androids of posotronic brains - Yuna says so in Elysium if you talk to her.)
This is all told in-game. Gramps was the one who found MM and he details in his book on MM, found in his room in MML2. So that's how we know what happened to MM and how we know he was imprisoned on Nino Island. I believe the actual room is mentioned and it's the place where you fight Klaymoore for the second time, which is the room right inside the entrance.
The Digger's Guild and city were probably built on top of it sometime later. This is also probably what Gramps and Von Blucher means when they say (in the Sulpher-Bottom) that they and the Guildmaster go back a long way....
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Post by Dark Kefka (AKA SS2 Gohan) on Nov 12, 2010 14:37:49 GMT -5
Well I found a back door around yotube's uploading problems.
Parts 9 and 10 are up and ready, so MMl1 is complete. Stay tuned for the MisAdventures of Tron Bonne. I might start those right away...as soon as I decided what the intro sound to the movies will be. Any suggestions?? Should keep using "Your Wind is Blowing"?
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Post by MikΣy on Nov 13, 2010 1:36:39 GMT -5
I've "also" always wondered about that humanoid shell... The one you first see inside a dropship like Joe's, the shell is unconscious (green hair, long ponytails and red eyes, looks like Sera, but isn't...) Once you awaken Sera; Yuna and Gatz are seen, and Gatz is carrying the shell.
After that, the next time you see the shell is in the Sulphur Bottom after gathering all of the keys, Yuna is carrying the shell and she puts it on the floor. After that, Yuna is inside the shell within Megaman's resurrection dreams, talking to him while inside it (although it's not the real shell).
Then, at the end, Sera winds up using the shell as her new body.
I'm just wondering who it was supposed to have been... Fan Paste in action?
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Post by Dark Kefka (AKA SS2 Gohan) on Nov 13, 2010 1:40:06 GMT -5
Gatz died when he tried to assimilate his program into Sera's body to assist MM in his fight against Sera once she was weakened. But, she was still too strong for him so she probably destroyed him when she transformed into her final form. She may have switched from one body to another, also, but that's just speculation. So he was killed in the process of morphing, so it's like a parasite dying when the host body dies. Geetz kamikazeed once you beat him as to buy Sera some time so that she could return to Elysium. It probably took a while for Data to repair MM and that's why we saw all the cutscenes where MM took The Master to Terra. MM was just watching memories of his past life before he fought Sera, stalemated, and Yuna intervened. So she imprisioned Sera on the Forbidden Island and imprisoned MM on Nino Island. MM was too badly damaged so he reset his body so that he could heal, and that's why he created Data in his past life. MM was reborn as a baby with The Master's genetic code and that's probably why he had the upper hand against Sera and why Juno didn't recognize him right away. (They're androids of posotronic brains - Yuna says so in Elysium if you talk to her.) This is all told in-game. Gramps was the one who found MM and he details in his book on MM, found in his room in MML2. So that's how we know what happened to MM and how we know he was imprisoned on Nino Island. I believe the actual room is mentioned and it's the place where you fight Klaymoore for the second time, which is the room right inside the entrance. The Digger's Guild and city were probably built on top of it sometime later. This is also probably what Gramps and Von Blucher means when they say (in the Sulpher-Bottom) that they and the Guildmaster go back a long way.... Thanks for all that info. Yeah...it's a very confusing plot. I'll pay attention again when I LP MML2. Geetz died too?? I didn't know that.
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Post by SIMSteven on Nov 13, 2010 11:05:10 GMT -5
I've "also" always wondered about that humanoid shell... The one you first see inside a dropship like Joe's, the shell is unconscious (green hair, long ponytails and red eyes, looks like Sera, but isn't...) Once you awaken Sera; Yuna and Gatz are seen, and Gatz is carrying the shell. After that, the next time you see the shell is in the Sulphur Bottom after gathering all of the keys, Yuna is carrying the shell and she puts it on the floor. After that, Yuna is inside the shell within Megaman's resurrection dreams, talking to him while inside it (although it's not the real shell). Then, at the end, Sera winds up using the shell as her new body. I'm just wondering who it was supposed to have been... Fan Paste in action? Yuna is using Matlida's body throughout the entire game. Yuna's real body is the green-haired, pigtailed girl. She tells you in the Elysium dock that she healed Matilda's body when she crash landed on Forbidden Island (along with Banner) and so she borrowed Matilda's body for a while because she used too much of her own nanotechnology. I'm guessing she can borrow other peoples' bodies because everyone on Terra is a creation of The Master and his people. This might be something he gave the Mother Units the ability to do because everyone's a clone of his people (The Master supposedly isn't the only "human" Ancient). Also, I'm also guessing that Yuna later got the resources to heal her original body but never transferred back. This's probably due to the fact that her thoughts and behaviors are limited while she's in her original shell (based on what she says before the Geetz battle). Therefore, she stayed in Matilda's body and said in the Elysium docks that she'd "give her body back" after the fight was over and the Ancient System was destroyed. More than likely, this would mean that she could get her original body back WITHOUT her behavioral limiters because the System is no longer active and not limiting her actions. They're probably going to do this with Sera's original shell, also, because "off-camera" they're going to heal it with whatever they have left that's on Elysium.
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Post by MikΣy on Nov 13, 2010 13:36:11 GMT -5
Right. I listened to a lot of Yuna's dialogue on Elysium because I was curious about how it came to be. I thought Yuna had said that her original shell had been "destroyed", and that was why she was using Matilda... Yuna never did mention what she originally looked like, but I suppose the dream cutscene should have made it obvious. Capcom does a good job at throwing people off.
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Post by SIMSteven on Nov 13, 2010 14:16:10 GMT -5
Um, she was talking about MM in that scene, not herself. (Yuna: "Now I understand why you destroyed your orignal shell.... why you tried to destroy the System.")
I've always believed that if MML kept going, Metal Gear Solid wouldn't be the only game out there known for its cut-scenes. Some of the MML cut-scenes are exceedingly long as well. I mean, just toss the MML2 disc in your PS and watch the 10 minute intro before you even start the game....
But anyways, about DK's movies....
Yeah, I don't really know what you should do with the intro music. All I know is that the credits songs all kick ass and I think that's because the composers have pretty much free reign over what song they wanna make. The rest of the tracks have to fit something related to the game and so the credits songs always seem to be the bests songs out there. Love the slap-bass that's going on in the US version, too.
Yeah, I also don't use the Power Stream part. You can make some really good combos without either of those parts but I actually change that in MML2. Namely, I use the parts that max Attack and Rapid and use one of the parts that give +3 to Energy/Range. That's because of how the stats effect your Buster in MML2.
Also, I don't comments on Youtube because I STILL don't have a Youtube account. Only thing I'd use it for is comments and I don't think I need to make an account just for that. If I had actual videos to upload, I might consider it though.
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